[identity profile] kiaroskuro.livejournal.com 2003-10-02 12:46 pm (UTC)(link)
This reminds me of the talk that the late Edward Said gave at Princeton a few years ago. He said that the only way the Israeli-Palestinian issue would ever be resolved is if Arabs and Israelis can live together in a multinational state that does not give preference to one faith or another, but treats all citizens as equal. It's not such a far-fetched idea, but for people who believe in a Jewish state, it can be unthinkable.

Thank you for posting such thought-provoking pieces.

Said dead too?

[identity profile] arisbe.livejournal.com 2003-10-02 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I really am out of the loop!

It is really a Zen-like paradox that Abouna Elias Chacour, whose family suffered the fate of other Palestinians, is a loyal citizen of Israel, and seems to have some hope that his Jewish neighbors will some day accept him, or at least his students, or their children, as such.

But how many more must die, not only Israelis and Palestinians, but Iraqis -- and Iranis and Syrians, whoever is next -- and Americans, like the two thousand two blocks from where I am typing?

[identity profile] supergee.livejournal.com 2003-10-02 12:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Somehow I can't helping thinking that there are people (some of them with oil money and other sources of power) who are considering the third alternative of an ethnically cleansed Arab Middle East.

Multi-culti

[identity profile] keith418.livejournal.com 2003-10-02 01:17 pm (UTC)(link)
It seems weird to me that the same folks who are the most insistent about the need for multiculturalism in America and in Europe are so resistant to it in Israel. This seems hypocritical at best. I think many of the people who support multiculturalism need to support it everywhere and not make exceptions. If no group is intrinsically superior, in any way, to any other group, then multiculturalism is the only solution. Anyone arguing for one group's superiority and right to an exception to the rules of multiculturalism could only be called bigots, racists, or worse. This is simple logic.

Re: Multi-culti

[identity profile] arisbe.livejournal.com 2003-10-02 02:26 pm (UTC)(link)
You mean ethnic Jews? They are well represented among the leaders of the antimulticults as well as the multis.

I think those who support Israel tend to be those who defend Western civilization. Or what they think of as Western civilization.

[identity profile] aelius.livejournal.com 2003-10-03 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Added you as a friend! :)

[identity profile] arisbe.livejournal.com 2003-10-03 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I added you too.