arisbe: (Default)
[personal profile] arisbe
"Let's face it. If you're poor in America, you're a 'suspect,' maybe. If you're poor and black in America, you're a 'criminal,' definitely. Even if your life is in peril, no excuses. Your rights don't count as long as any badge or weekend warrior in BDU's says they don't.

"This is the real story of the Louisiana Superdome." -- Jack Duggan on LRC

In the so-called Liberal Media? No comment.

Date: 2005-08-30 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kali-ma.livejournal.com
Yeah. This is why a lot of people stayed in their homes, and are now sitting on the roof hoping not to drown. When I lived there, you couldn't have dragged me to the Superdome during a hurricane. I stayed in my house during Georges.

Date: 2005-08-30 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elnigma.livejournal.com
The argument was made no one noticed, that's not true, I think people around the country were shocked. I couldn't believe they were still holding the NFL game - they made people wait until it was over?! I was also thinking if I had to wait hours while people searched me to enter someplace with guards, I'd worry about being allowed to leave.

Date: 2005-08-30 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kali-ma.livejournal.com
They aren't allowed to leave. Of course, they almost certainly have no where to go anyway. The street has 3 feet of water in it and their homes have probably been destroyed.

Give them guns and whiskey and nothing to do!

Date: 2005-08-30 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reality-hammer.livejournal.com
Well, no. The hysterical whining of Lew Rockwell & Co. is not the "liberal" media, it's the "anarcho-syndicalist wing of the libertarian movement media on the Internet(s)".
From: [identity profile] arisbe.livejournal.com
"Anarchosyndicalist" takes me back to teaching in the New York public schools. An old line Communist assistant principal used the term to abuse a teacher for defending worker consultation in factory management in Yugoslavia. It's more than a little scary that Stalinist anti-Trotsky rhetoric is still used by those faithful to That Man in the White House (to use a phrase going back to the same era).

I admit I have a soft spot for anarchosyndicalism, though the LRC folks don't seem to. A couple of years ago I posted something on Mondragon (http://www.livejournal.com/users/arisbe/47323.html), which has some links to the experiment which may be useful. But LRC is anarcho... capitalist. Why not call them that? I suppose because Capitalist is a Randian God term, and to many so-called Objectivists anyone who criticizes the Iraq war is of the Devil's party.
From: [identity profile] reality-hammer.livejournal.com
Aside from the problems of "turf wars" it has some appealing features.

Date: 2005-08-30 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophiaserpentia.livejournal.com
OTOH, guns and alcohol in the Superdome would be a potentially very bad thing right about now.

Date: 2005-08-30 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arisbe.livejournal.com
But to go through a woman's compact in the hopes of a drug bust?

Date: 2005-08-30 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sabrarosa.livejournal.com
I was wondering about that myself. I read that a couple of people actually had heart attacks while waiting in line.

Date: 2005-08-30 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kibbles.livejournal.com
My friend couldn't get out far enough...we got this horrible post by txt message/email that the building next to her collapsed, wall of hers had cracks, she loved us all...

...and then today someone spotted her alive, so I'm happy.

I can't read the article (its not loading) but all I know is on LJ people were screaming about the idiots who didnt make it out, and they just have no idea what it may be like to get somewhere.

Hell, on 9/11 my husband couldnt even make it home, it wasnt sensible, and didnt come home until the 12th...and he wasnt even downtown that day. If dan and I lived alone here instead of the same city as our family and we had to evacuate I have no idea what we'd do...

Date: 2005-08-30 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pioneer11.livejournal.com
On the other hand, they could have all been told "stay in your homes"
with that authoritative voice of reason.

No perfect solutions, but being in the dome was better then being
at home.

Date: 2005-08-30 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancing-gator.livejournal.com
powerful article.

South as target

Date: 2005-08-30 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mizannie.livejournal.com
No denying truth but it is the same everywhere. I lived
in Kansas for some years at it was every bit as prejuidiced
against the poor, which a lot of whom were African American.
But it doesn't get publicity.

Re: South as target

Date: 2005-08-30 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arisbe.livejournal.com
Well to be fair, the fellow did say America, not Louisiana.

Re: South as target

Date: 2005-08-30 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mizannie.livejournal.com
Did you see that, America? Nothing has changed in the South.
or anywhere else. It wasn't that terribly long ago I lived in Kansas.

Re: South as target

Date: 2005-08-30 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arisbe.livejournal.com
I live in New York. It could happen here tomorrow.

Date: 2005-08-30 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lhasa7.livejournal.com
Police officer shot by looter
Tuesday, 4:25 p.m.

WWL -TV was reporting that a law enforcement officer was shot in the back of the head Tuesday afternoon on the west bank. The officer reportedly approached the looter near the intersection of Wall Boulevard and Gen. DeGaulle and, while talking to suspect, was shot in the back of the head by a second looter.

Information was not available on the condition of the officer. It was unclear if the suspects had been apprehended.

Date: 2005-08-30 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] matthardwick.livejournal.com
No MSM comment, either -- and here is where the Lefty in me starts to get his rag on -- ;O) about how the death toll is at the very worst going to be mere hundreds of people -- while the death toll you keep on seeing from places like Haiti or Indonesia or Turkey every time there's a hurricane/tsunami or earthquake is often in the thousands.

You would think that for all its supposed Liberalism, that the flacks of the MSM would be all over themselves searching high and low for facts like this, raising all kinds of issues about what such things might mean. Issues such as: Perhaps "overburdensome" safety regulations backed with a less corrupt work after all! or: will the reason that all the death and destruction might be excessive in this particular extreme case be the Louisiana's notorious, rather bipartisan corruption? Or: what role did graft and kickbacks play in the Superdome roof getting torn off by Katrina, and is it similar to the role that graft and kickbacks might have played in the construction of the World Trade Center? (I digress, but: ever read anything about the history of the building of the WTC? Admittedly I've read scant stuff myself, but from what I have read, it sounds like a major reason the twin towers toppled was because corners were cut, so to speak...) Or: what government regulations might prevent further deaths, if not destruction? Just to name a few that come to mind.

But they're obviously not going to do such a thing at all. We shall be hearing "objective" reports that will soon warp into melodramatic tragedy at the Loss Of Life -- but nothing about the minimum of what we as a country or mere society might have done to have prevented such loss.

On a less "political" note: how've you been doing? Not that you should post any such thing soon, but it's been a while since you've talked about your hospitalization. Hope all is well...
:-)

Date: 2005-08-30 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] matthardwick.livejournal.com
Perhaps "overburdensome" safety regulations backed with a less corrupt work after all!

Should read: "Perhaps "overburdensome" safety regulations backed with a less corrupt government works after all!"
Page generated Jun. 19th, 2025 10:05 pm
Powered by Dreamwidth Studios