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arisbe ([personal profile] arisbe) wrote2005-08-20 01:30 pm

The Americanist Heresy

"Conservatives of almost all stripes had cause to rejoice in Ratzinger’s election, as even non-Catholics among them saw in him a man who would uphold the values dear to them. An ephemeral but telling sign of his support was the presence on the Internet of sites announcing themselves as the 'Ratzinger Fanclub' and 'Protestants for Ratzinger.' The new pope would be a sure ally for the Right in the Culture War. But where hot wars are concerned, many of Ratzinger’s most ardent admirers—Catholic neoconservatives especially—find themselves diametrically at odds with the pope." -- Daniel McCarthy in TAC

[identity profile] rolodexpropaga.livejournal.com 2005-08-20 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
That is what I like about the current Pope. He is a peace pope. It will make his time a particularly difficult one as his supporters are often guilty of the heresy he declared by choice of name, to stomp out.

[identity profile] joffridus.livejournal.com 2005-08-20 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I think John Paul II and Benedict XVI's understandings of the strictness with which Capital Punishment and Just War must be recognized as acceptible, are more in line with the overall heritage of the church, despite the more lax understandings of both doctrines that have sometimes been put forth.

Viva il Papa!

[identity profile] novak.livejournal.com 2005-08-21 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for posting this one, Frank: I'm going to have to copy this one down myself! It was refreshing to hear a conservative stance on the subject that didn't have the kind of obfuscation the neocons have had to resort to on the issue.

[identity profile] arisbe.livejournal.com 2005-08-21 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Drop in on the Paleocon side of the street; plenty of Catholics here. Check out LRC (http://www.lewrockwell.com/) some time, new every day but Sunday.

[identity profile] novak.livejournal.com 2005-08-21 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
"Paleocon" is it? Old Federalists and Whigs gathering together? I'm afraid I'm not a person to make any American political party very happy....

[identity profile] arisbe.livejournal.com 2005-08-21 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, my, and Antifederalists, Neoconfederates, Habsburg Monarchists, Distributists, Catholic Workers, Libertarians...

[identity profile] novak.livejournal.com 2005-08-21 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
lol.... It was the "Hapsburg Monarchists" that got me....

[identity profile] arisbe.livejournal.com 2005-08-21 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
One (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_von_Kuehnelt-Leddihn) you might have heard of.
One (http://zmirak.blogspot.com/) you might not have.

[identity profile] holyoffice.livejournal.com 2005-08-22 12:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for posting this. Very interesting, especially when you consider that the Catholic intellectuals mentioned in the article are the ones who loudly lament their fellow Catholics who practice artificial contraception, etc. It seems there are more than just "liberals" involved in "Cafeteria Catholicism."

[identity profile] arisbe.livejournal.com 2005-08-22 01:18 pm (UTC)(link)
When I was but a wee lad Bill Buckley scrawled "Mater si, magistra no" over the cover of National Review, in imitation of Fidel's "Cuba si, Yanqui, no.