Wannisky on Rove/Plame
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arisbeJude Wannisky is a scholar I have respected since the 1970s as a conservative in the best sense of the term, though he is a critic of the war, and therefore no doubt vilified as an enemy of the State.
But I find it disturbing to find this supremely level-headed guy worried about "secret evidence" of a "very serious crime" blanked out of eight pages of the court records.
Here is a sample, and a link to the whole:
"All of this led me to believe there had to be more to this story than the surface noise, or Federal Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald would not have spent two years of his life trying to get to the bottom of things – when it never seemed clear that Ms. Plame was a covert agent, traveling openly back and forth to her desk at Langley. It's now clear that there may be something VERY big going on here to explain all this time, money and effort. We don't know what it is, but it is in the hands of the prosecution and the federal courts, summarized in eight pages that Lawrence O'Donnell could write on July 7, on Ariana Huffington's website, "The One Very Good Reason Karl Rove Might Be Indicted." The headline is shocking in itself, coming from O'Donnell, a respected journalist, a man I've known since he served as chief of staff to the late Sen. Pat Moynihan in the 1980s.
"In his July 7 blog, the "one good reason" he cites involves eight blank pages in a February decision by Circuit Court Judge David Tatel who joined his colleagues in ordering Cooper and Miller to reveal their sources. Tatel had earlier indicated he would dissent because the matter did not seem to be a danger to national security, but after looking at the evidence presented by the prosecution he decided they had to testify because, as O'Donnell puts it, "he found that the press privilege had to give way to the gravity of the suspected crime." He also notes: "All the judges who have seen the prosecutors secret evidence firmly believe he is pursuing a very serious crime, and they have done everything they can to help him get an indictment."
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But I find it disturbing to find this supremely level-headed guy worried about "secret evidence" of a "very serious crime" blanked out of eight pages of the court records.
Here is a sample, and a link to the whole:
"All of this led me to believe there had to be more to this story than the surface noise, or Federal Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald would not have spent two years of his life trying to get to the bottom of things – when it never seemed clear that Ms. Plame was a covert agent, traveling openly back and forth to her desk at Langley. It's now clear that there may be something VERY big going on here to explain all this time, money and effort. We don't know what it is, but it is in the hands of the prosecution and the federal courts, summarized in eight pages that Lawrence O'Donnell could write on July 7, on Ariana Huffington's website, "The One Very Good Reason Karl Rove Might Be Indicted." The headline is shocking in itself, coming from O'Donnell, a respected journalist, a man I've known since he served as chief of staff to the late Sen. Pat Moynihan in the 1980s.
"In his July 7 blog, the "one good reason" he cites involves eight blank pages in a February decision by Circuit Court Judge David Tatel who joined his colleagues in ordering Cooper and Miller to reveal their sources. Tatel had earlier indicated he would dissent because the matter did not seem to be a danger to national security, but after looking at the evidence presented by the prosecution he decided they had to testify because, as O'Donnell puts it, "he found that the press privilege had to give way to the gravity of the suspected crime." He also notes: "All the judges who have seen the prosecutors secret evidence firmly believe he is pursuing a very serious crime, and they have done everything they can to help him get an indictment."
What`s the Real Story on Karl Rove?
Memo To: Website Fans, Browsers, Clients
From: Jude Wanniski
Re: What's in Those Eight Blank Pages?
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Date: 2005-07-14 01:01 am (UTC)Now if you are Karl Rove, evil genius, do you "allow" a reporter to divulge your comments or "let" them take the heat by going to jail for refusing to turn over their notes?
I still haven't seen anything to suggest that Karl Rove is complicit in a crime, much less been found guilty.
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Date: 2005-07-14 01:59 am (UTC)As if he had been reading your LJ.
But he has a strong sense that something important is afoot, and I can't help wondering myself.
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Date: 2005-07-18 02:18 am (UTC)"What I’m now reading and hearing is that what you have come up with is, at best, a complaint against someone, perhaps not even in government, for having told one or more reporters that Plame was responsible for sending her husband to Niger to look for yellowcake, which she was not, and that she was a covert agent, which she clearly was not at the time. There are still some anti-war legal beagles who are splitting hairs, insisting she still fit the CIA’s definition of a covert agent – or the Justice Department would never have turned the case over to you if they didn’t think she was covert. But for you to chew up two years on these kinds of Mickey Mouse legalisms would be outrageous if this is all you have. John Tierney of the NYT calls this "Nadagate," a zero, and that`s what it`s beginning to look like to me.
"The public only needs to know from you who, if anyone, in the government knew a serious falsehood about yellowcake was inserted into the President’s 2003 State of the Union Speech, knowing the lie would elicit national support for a war that turned out to be unnecessary. And if you can’t clear that up, please do not ask the grand jury to issue a handful of indictments on the measly issue of Plame’s status at the CIA, only to justify the time you have wasted in this proceeding. If you not already read Frank Rich’s op-ed in today’s NYTimes, I urge you to do so forthwith..."
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Date: 2005-07-14 01:13 am (UTC)of those he disagrees with is a driven man,
driven by his terribel rightness about things...
may the Lord have mercy on such.
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Date: 2005-07-14 01:15 am (UTC)by also confessing my own need of mercy.
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Date: 2005-07-14 05:32 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-14 01:33 pm (UTC)"Kyrie Elieson" -literally Lord Mercy is a normal liturgical
prayer and part of the pulse of prayer I suppose in one
form or another.
But another question,and I suspect you wish to see how I
would deal with it since I see from your interests you have
some not unsophisticated ones, is what does that mean and why
pray it I will try just to say a word on each.
In one respect all that there is ,is mercy ,other words are
possible too for 'all that is' but it is not a bad one. In
mercy we live move and have our being...
it is possible,rather precisely like the self made prisoners in Plato's cave to in some self absorption make for ourselves an
alternative reality in which mercy is not easily present or other
things either,true knowledge, repose etc All of us people partly
do this ,it is a shadow of creativity maybe.
then what is the way back,if doors are locked from within and
almost everyone in some part of their life if not the large part
has locked a door from within, how without violation of freedom
wbich is another Name let us say of God, can the prisoners come
forth...?
One way to express this is that we trust in our liberation from
our untrue dreams, in the active nature of Mercy...that it is
mercy of an acting love...
that it is as some alchemist said only comparable to what it
really is "The Resurrection of the Dead".
Perhaps this goes towards what answer I could give? Do problems
remain?
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Date: 2005-07-14 02:40 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-14 02:43 am (UTC)state (that is how the paleocons like to
think they are regarded perhaps) but in
recent years as an obssessed man...
but I have said this before...it is just my
sense with these people. they are not mad in
a clinical sense of course...
or it can be just me, but you post em for comment
and that is mine.
on another matter--meeting with Fr Soles
Date: 2005-07-14 03:10 am (UTC)the 29th Friday at 530 or 6
at mulberry street would be excelent
so lets do that I would think...
Re: on another matter--meeting with Fr Soles
Date: 2005-07-14 03:15 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-14 03:21 am (UTC)us on the 29th...
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Date: 2005-07-14 03:22 am (UTC)No kangaroo steak afterward, though.
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Date: 2005-07-14 03:29 am (UTC)they are so cute
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Date: 2005-07-14 03:33 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-07-14 03:36 am (UTC)forward to you to make also , I will try
to do it in the next day or two.
pain in ears especially at night from sinuses
got my hiv test(of course negative any other
would be medical news of the first water) for
multiple entry visa...
kathleen takes off tomorrow...
+Seraphim
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